Question:
Did you see the WSJ poll on the effects of Hillary as VP on Obama's chances?
politicoswizzlestick
2008-06-12 08:50:57 UTC
They asked if Hillary as VP would make voters more or less likely to vote for Obama.

22% more likely
21% less likely
55% no difference

Finally someone is getting closer to polling the right question. Really what needs to be asked is "Will you vote for Obama" then "If hillary was Obama's VP would you vote for Obama" and it should be a follow up only asked to people who say they are not "solidly" behind McCain --- ie. potential Obama voters.

I think you will see that a lot of the angry Hillary supporters think that is not good enough and won't vote for it anyway and a lot of Obama supporters won't vote for any ticket with Hillary on it.

I think it is, as the polls suggest, a measure that would lose as much support as it gains (and maybe more once you count the surge in evangelical turnout that Hillary would create for the GOP).

There really is no way to escape the fact that she has very high negatives, IMO.... but this is about asking for your opinion, so dazzle me.
Four answers:
2008-06-12 09:12:38 UTC
Hey Politico.



I agree, with your assessment, but I must say that that poll will be a lot more relevant when it is taken in 2 months. I would get the field narrowed down, see if she even makes the final cut (make sure she breezes through the vetting process to Obama's satisfaction), and see what that poll will result at the back end of the decision process. Give Obama some time to plead his case directly contrasted with John McCain for a bit and give tempers time to cool. I really think that Obama will shine next to McCain. I think when we see a debate or two and I know that it seems biased because I'm a democrat, but with all the contradictions that McCain represents. All of his recent position changes, and once there is someone across from him asking "and so how is that different from what we are doing now?" or "going into Iran is a good idea because in the current state of our millitary and economy?" or "keeping all of these giant tax loopholes open for the people who make top tier income at the expense of the middle and lower class is good because..." Obama will appeal to a lot of up for grabs voters. That and there is no indication that McCain will stop averaging a gaffe or just awful soundbite a day. I think the polls won't be able to truly depict the situation until the tempers cool and we see a better contrast. I mean a lot of Clinton supporters that are angry are still licking their wounds and some won't come back, but I do think we will get a lot back without her on the ticket. It just takes time, and not much has really passed yet. It also depends a lot on what Hillary will do with the ball now that she has it.



Not much dazzle, but I speculate in beige.

Have a good one man.
2016-10-17 05:25:47 UTC
Hillary could have a significant place in Obama's cabinet - no longer vice chairman. we don't comprehend yet who would be vice chairman and how he desires to run the marketing campaign. the different facet will go after Michelle Obama in a very vicious way. The Bush human beings tried that with Cindy McCain, with any luck we don't pick a president's spouse rather of subject concerns. The speedy-boating would be very, very gruesome. i wish the yank human beings can upward thrust above the dirt slinging in the process the election...
2008-06-12 09:05:49 UTC
I like the prospect of General Clark better than Senator Clinton because I think General Clark is more consistant with Obama's message of changing washington's culture.
Honest Rob
2008-06-12 09:22:41 UTC
Hillary was a loser and we don't need a loser on our ticket.



It really doesn't matter who Obama picks for VP as they really don't do anything, but he sure doesn't need to pick a loser.



Edit: Since you added that last part, I'm not sure whose side Keith Olbermann is on. With each show his last show contradicts it a lot of times. I think he just tries to stir up trouble and that's not needed.



I think we should all look at this as the VP is not that important... it's about Obama. If you look at the other side, they don't really care who McCain selects as VP. I don't think Obama could care at all who McCAin picks.


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