Question:
Do Republicans realize that the more poor people there are in the country the less their money is worth?
jero
2008-07-17 18:17:12 UTC
If we are all Americans shouldn't we all get fair wages? The trickle down effect doesn't seem to be working American companies are doing well while the populous isn't. Are the rich getting greedier and keeping all the money?. I am not talking about social programs but fair wages and the rich paying taxes accordingly.
31 answers:
annie w
2008-07-17 18:46:48 UTC
The wealthy also pay over 50% of the taxes. They are paying accordingly. Maybe you should look into Hollywood, where most of them are Democrats. ***
Luv2Answer
2008-07-18 01:41:06 UTC
Give me a break. First, the poor in the U.S. are the richest poor in the world. Secondly, has a poor person ever given you a job? Of course not. The rich guys are the ones hiring people. That's a trickle down effect. People getting rich is their right and what this country is all about. The opportunity to do so is what makes America great. The rich people buy cars, boats, hire painters, cleaners, eat at restaurants, buy clothes, go to movies, stay at hotels and a million other things, thereby employing a ton of people and helping the economy grow. I'm a republican because I've studied economics, not because I give a darn about social issues.
fouro33
2008-07-18 01:51:03 UTC
Well, I don't know about you, but I've never in my life been employed by a poor person, only by rich ones. The rich are hardly "keeping all the money," they are growing their business. "Profit" does not mean what they are putting in the bank, it's what they are making above the cost of doing business. That money is put back into the business -- buying more product, upgrades, etc.



Simple math will tell you that 10% of 1,000,000 is a lot more tax to pay ($100,000) than 10% of 10,000 ($1,000). The rich DO pay taxes.
iroteb
2008-07-18 01:34:32 UTC
I can see the side of the aisle your on, but party affiliation has little to do with it. There are plenty of rich Dems out there. And if they are so damned self sacrificing why don't they give all their money away, instead of trying to force everyone else to giive theirs up.



Okay, Obama raised 55 million bucks last month (McCain raised 22 mil). Hooray for them...if Dems (or Repubs for that matter) would take the estimated 300-400 million dollars they are going to spend on this election and give every man woman and child an equal portion of those funds we'd all be millionaires.
Natasha b
2008-07-18 01:39:03 UTC
The happiest people aren't the richest people.



I believe a society should take care of the basic needs of the society.



But I do not believe success should be penalized.



Let's apply this to grades in college. Someone works hard and studies gets an A. Someone parties and doesn't study gets a D. Who is happier? Each had a different goal and they may both be happy. BUT, as a liberal I say take part of the A and bring the D student up to a C.



I think associating wealth with happiness is the Liberal mistake.
Liberty or Death
2008-07-18 01:28:14 UTC
The top 10% of the income earners pay over 80% of the federal tax burden.



We have the greatest "poor" population in the world. Virtually all households under the poverty level have a color TV, many times 2 or more of them, they have cars, they have homes, clothing. If we'd quit taxing business owners and employers into oblivion, our economy would be much better off, more jobs and better wages would be out there, and more money in circulation would help all of us.



The population has nothing to do with the value of the dollar. Get an economics textbook and you'd understand that.
guido
2008-07-18 01:43:26 UTC
if i in all my ingenuity, come up with a wonderful little gadget that saves people 20% on gas milage, i like the idea of being able to sell it for what it is worth, for what people are willing to buy it for. i would be very angry, and feel very cheated if someone came to me and told me that my neighbor who sits on his a$$ and watches cars drive by all day, is being mistreated by me because i'm making all this money. i would feel very bitter and mad if the government came to me and forcably took 30% of what i was making and gave it to him. i would see no connection whatsoever in my profit from my ingenuity, and my neighbor's laziness.



you are looking at things through those rose colored glasses, it's true, there is plenty for everyone to live a rich life, but in our system you get what you work for, and sometimes things don't work the way they should, sometimes life deals a hard blow to someone, and sometimes fools get lucky, and rich. our system allows for alot of those unlucky things that can happen, and puts an unfair burden on the fortunate, not because they deserve the burden, but just simply because they have a lot. because they have alot we have decided it is fair to take some of it away, that is unbelievably sick when you think about it.



if you let capitalism go, it works. if a service or product is worth something, it will be worth something to employ someone to do it, if there are better paying jobs elsewhere, the employers will have to pay more to keep them, it equals out. people at the top also are taking the risks, are also being rewarded for that great idea, or that special service, or special talent.



does everyone get a fair shake? no, but we're not in grade school anymore, this is life, i don't want a "certificate of participation" to make me feel good, i don't want to play a game and not keep score. i don't want to ignore talented people, and i don't want people to ignore my talents, and that's what capitalism is about, the most direct and natural way to show the importance of what you personally bring to the table.



the system ain't perfect, but it's the best game in town.
cantcu
2008-07-18 01:30:47 UTC
David Stockman's "Voodoo economics" didn't work for Reagan and it hasn't worked for Bush, and never will. He just likes stealing from the poor to give to the rich, while they don't pay their taxes and hide their money overseas in shell games!



Getting greedier? They are but I don't know why as they own all of America's wealth now and trade in things like thin air! How can a future be a future if it never has a future?



They never seem to have enough.



Personally. I believe almost all with wealth had to cheat to get it. Most of the time it was off the backs of the more with 1/2 of America's taxpayer or tax-paying families earning $30,000 a year or less. That wouldn't pay for the gas in their aircraft! About 1/2 of the homeless have full-time jobs!



I can't wait to see the names on that 3 CD list!



Fair wages? No such thing! Why do you think McCain was out raising money with the California grape industry last night. I bet he assured them they will get all of the illegal $5.00 a day workers they want if he were elected president. How cozy!
Bibs
2008-07-18 01:29:58 UTC
Nice going--Rich vs the Poor. Is that what it is about? It seems that there are many people that still play that game. We all need each other, Rich and Poor--Republicans and Democrats. Both the Democrats and Republicans have some good platforms. And both also have some idiotic ideas. it makes it very hard to chose.
William S
2008-07-18 01:29:42 UTC
My son in law made $400,000 last year and he paid $100,000 in taxes, poor people pay nothing in taxes. Does that sound fair, I was raised if you don't like your lot in life then get off your a$$ and change it but don't whine about it...corporations are the ones that hire people so lets tax them to the hilt and watch even more industry go overseas...McCain has the right idea when he says cut the corporate tax from 35% to 25% so we can be competitive.
Agent319.007
2008-07-18 01:32:40 UTC
Not all Republicans (especially Democrats) are rich.



The reason why the United States is in a deficit is because most people don't know how to manage their finances and have bad time management.



Anyone who marks me as a thumbs down are the main cause of a weak country. Before you thumb me down or report me for abuse in stating my opinion, first ask yourself "what you can do for your country...not what your country can do for you."
CARL G H
2008-07-18 01:36:41 UTC
Do Democrats? Look you and I should be responsible for our own wealth or lack of it. people that work hard study for ten years to reach a top skill should be more valuable than a person flipping a burger. As to Tax paying they actually pay far more taxs than you could imagine. besides being in a much higher tax bracket they most often have many support workers that assist them in day to day buisness and employers pay taxes for this as well. most invest money some in the stock market. the stock market consists of people spending their money investing in others trying to make money. most these people are struggling buisnesses employing workers such as yourself possibly. you dont want washington to be handed even more money to play with you want more investment in you and I the guys trying to reach their levels of money in time .
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2008-07-18 01:24:02 UTC
you are talking about the p word so you are going to hear it now (politics.) i am not 100% up to date on politics cause i am 14/have other things to worry about but i am practicing for next election where i can vote.



now to the actual question, technicly speaking, the less american dollers there are, the more the doller is worth, so the less money people have would make what money they have worth more. at least i think thats how it goes. like i said, i am still learning so if you dissagree than sorry.
anonymous
2008-07-18 01:24:26 UTC
If you want to make more money, acquire the education and skills you need to do that. You dont need the government to do that you only need to set a goal and work hard. The workplace and free market pays wages according to value of work that is the way it should be.
anonymous
2008-07-18 01:23:57 UTC
You can't dictate equal wages. THis isn't the old Soviet Union. Its a free market, people earn what they deserve. All rich people are not evil or greedy. Stop assuming.
anonymous
2008-07-18 01:22:07 UTC
You got it backwords. If you raise someone's income for no other reason than to be "fair" and they are not any more productive, then you end up raising everyone's salary. The guy who is worth more needs to get paid more so he is still worth more than the guy who got the "fair" wage increase. Once everyone is making more, the cost of everything goes up and all those raises mean nothing because everyone has the same buying power as before because their money is worth less.
anonymous
2008-07-18 01:24:09 UTC
What's a "fair" rate to tax the rich at? 35%? How about 40%? Why don't we just take 50% of their earnings? Why do demoncraps want to penalize people for succeeding?

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"THE SIMPLIFIED EXPLANATION OF THE TAX STRUCTURE



Bar Stool Economics



Suppose that every day, ten men go out for a couple of beers and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes according to our current tax structure, it

would go something like this:



The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.

The fifth would pay $1.

The sixth would pay $3.

The seventh would pay $7.

The eighth would pay $12.

The ninth would pay $18.

The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.



So, that's what they decided to do.



The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the

arrangement, until on day, the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are

all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of

your daily bar bill by $20."Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.



The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so

the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.

But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they

divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted

that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would

each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested

that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same

percentage of total of what he had been paying, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.



And so:



The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).

The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).

The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).

The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).

The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).

The tenth now paid $49 in stead of $59 (16% savings).



Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four

continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men

began to compare their savings.



"I only got a dollar out of the $20,"declared the sixth man. He pointed

to the tenth man," but he got $10!"



"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar,

too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!"



"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back

when I got only two"



"The rich get all the breaks!"



"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get

anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"



The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.



The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat

down and had beers without him.



But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something

important. They didn't have enough money among them all for even

half of the bill!



And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how

our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most

benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being

wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might

start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier, or

not reinvest in the community."



David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.

Professor of Economics

University of Georgia

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"A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and was very much in favor of the redistribution of wealth. She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.



One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the addition of more government welfare programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school. Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.



Her father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing?"



She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast! She's always invited to all the parties, and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over."



Her wise father asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Registrar's office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA, and that certainly would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA."



The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, "That wouldn't be fair! I have worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!"



The father slowly smiled and said gently, 'Welcome to the Republican Party.'"



whcwarrior_10

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I liked these anecdotes and felt they must be added to this discussion.



I hate to tell you this, but you don't have to go to Haiti to see rich people driving in Benzs and poor people starving. It happens all over the world every single day, including right here in the good ole U.S. of A. Poverty is a fact of life, always has been and always will be.
anonymous
2008-07-18 01:24:19 UTC
What is a "fair" wage? and when you pay everyone at that minimum level is it still "fair"?



Think about it...
anonymous
2008-07-18 01:22:05 UTC
yeah, i work hard, become rich, so i get punished? very few people don't have the same opportunity, aren't as motivated, don't earn as much, so they expect more of my money to go to these people... yeah, sounds really fair.
Lynda G
2008-07-18 01:23:15 UTC
hahaha, you hit that one on the head! They don't care cuz they know they can't take it with them, but they plan on leaving it to the selfish children they raised. let's get the politicians off the social programs (like McCain getting Social Security) and maybe they can fill the potholes and crumbling road in front of my house!

Corvato; Try working my job at 50 hours a week at minimum wage and then tell me I don't work as hard (or harder) than you!!!
anonymous
2008-07-18 01:27:26 UTC
Like it or not,all of this will pass.What would the rich do without the poor?Who would do their

dishes?One rich person won't do another rich

persons dirty work.Go figure!
anonymous
2008-07-18 01:23:07 UTC
wages should not be decided by the government, My opinion, the USA is based on how hard you work
anonymous
2008-07-18 02:03:03 UTC
You are right! I agree with all of your points
Mary Jo W
2008-07-18 01:21:55 UTC
one earns a fair wage with effort and time.

not a given,

you need to EARN it
Missouri Patriot
2008-07-18 01:22:06 UTC
Welfare people that won't get off the cough likely won't go vote eather!
anonymous
2008-07-18 01:21:16 UTC
Did you know that 1% (the Wealthiest) posses 90% of all money.



I have yet to figure out how they've duped so many into support tax breaks targeted towards the wealthy
Pancakes
2008-07-18 01:20:28 UTC
Which is why Republicans want to allow 'poor' people to become rich. Why do democrats want to keep them at the welfare trough?
anonymous
2008-07-18 01:22:08 UTC
the more poor people there are the more money the republicans have, it might be worth less but they'll have more of it so it equals out.
anonymous
2008-07-18 01:20:31 UTC
What do they care about poor people. They throw Vets under the Bus cause they don't want to give them anything.
Marvelous Marv
2008-07-18 01:20:38 UTC
Do you realize that your question does not make any sense?
Kevin M
2008-07-17 18:20:01 UTC
I guess they don't realize that.... that's why most poor people are democrats.


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