Question:
Why is it that neither candidate has talked about improving education?
Wonder
2008-10-04 17:25:22 UTC
I have only heard a little smidge from Obama and nothing from McCain regarding educating these kids..what's up with that?
Eighteen answers:
Me F.
2008-10-04 17:46:33 UTC
The immigrants that make it to the UNITED STATES legally that is, are exceptional in their own way. They usually have connections ( family members to sponsor them, who are already well established). For them to be here, certain condition MUST be met, they have skills and basic knowledge ability to help them succeed. They are not the demonized immigrant we have come to accept from television.



The USA doesn't just accept any old foreigner ( legally).





on to your question:



The USA right no is in influx. The system, which educated ppl toward either low paying jobs or high paying jobs, is broken. It is no longer enough to just work hard and become well educated. Experience and technology are the name of the game! Specialization and a synthesis of fields is also important. ( as well as practical hands on experience).







we don't exactly know how to implement this change, we just know that something is wrong. It is not enough to pay teachers more, or to get new/smarter ones, or to be "more competitive". Fundamentals have to change.



we currently live in a two economy ( I hope I'm putting this properly) system. One is traditional the other Service economy. Traditional is dying and its education system is dying with it. Service is coming up , but how to educate the kids is still a mystery ( at least for the United States).





This is only part of a very twisted web.
pompanopete0
2008-10-05 00:34:57 UTC
I must agree that neither candidate is truly focusing on the issues the affect us daily. I don't believe either candidate will actually fulfill the largest part of their promises. Only because the damage is severe, the true blame is on all the lawmakers that stood by and allowed predatory lending to run wild. Bank of America acts so arrogant and rude I wrote letters,,,,, what a joke ,,, they rolled over my like a marshmallow. Then I found out they were TOTALLY deregulated. And here we are.
To Be
2008-10-05 00:33:16 UTC
Obama has made this a most important issue in his campaign . If you haven't seen that then you haven't been paying attention. It was one of the things that he said he couldn't cut from the budget from the bailout because it was so important to the foundation of the U.S. to become a leader again in this world. McCain , on the other hand, hasn't addressed this issue at all with any importance.
Greshnab
2008-10-05 00:32:57 UTC
well first and formost that is a key plank in obama's platform.. nationalizing eduction...





but as an aside why is the federal government involved in eduction.. doesn't' that fall in the range of state and local government





in my opinion education falls in the part of the "the government shall not assume any rights or responsibilities not specifically granted within this document."
shanequinox
2008-10-05 00:29:42 UTC
Check You Tube for Obama's recent rally in Wisconsin. He talks very much about education. It is a priority to him. He wants to hire better teachers and pay them more. He wants to improve early childhood education and he wants to offer paid college to anyone who volunteers to help the US through community service or serving in the military. Look on his website, also. www.barackobama.com
2008-10-05 00:29:33 UTC
Why should we be educated when vicarious learning is now a desirable asset.

Palin is at the top of the class in this new education and it seems to work quite well for her.
Tethera
2008-10-05 00:30:56 UTC
They've talked plenty about it, but the media doesn't cover education as much as they cover the economy and the wars.



Obama on education:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/education/



McCain on education:

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/19ce50b5-daa8-4795-b92d-92bd0d985bca.htm
2008-10-05 00:30:21 UTC
The last thing Obama wants to do is educate is supporters. That would hurt his chances of being elected
2008-10-05 00:29:46 UTC
Obama has, just like he did in Chicago and the following is the result:



Obama-Ayers: Failed Chicago Schools Under Ethnic Identity Agenda

Posted on August 28, 2008



Bill Ayers

Chicago Magazine Photo

Angry Obama supporters were asked to contact WGN’s 720 Extension radio talk show en masse to encourage the station to drop an interview with Stanley Kurtz, a National Review Online contributor with new information on Barack Obama. The show went on.

No secret now, why the Obama Campaign is desperately trying to silence National Review Online’s Stanley Kurtz.

Milt Rosenberg’s two-hour interview on WGN Radio last night with Kurtz revealed some of the agenda behind a late 1990’s Chicago public school program, of which Barack Obama was at the helm.

When news of the pending interview broke, the Obama campaign sent out emails, detailing talking points, and asking supporters to flood the radio station with calls and email messages, which they did. (The Obama Wire email appears at the end of this article.)

The Obama campaign was offered to participate in the entire two hour interview. According to Rosenberg’s producer, after the offer was made, a high-level Obama staffer asked for the name of the station manager and then hung up on the producer.

I have listened to the entire interview. It is available for your listening pleasure :



Background and my synopsis of the interview:

The University of Illinois released documents yesterday that propelled this conversation forward. Barack Obama and Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers, who spent a number of years on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted List, were the leading powers behind a massive educational reform for the city of Chicago. Then Secretary of Education, William Bennett stated that the Chicago educational system was the worst in the Nation.

William Ayers prepared the proposal that got the seed money for the education reform program that would become the Chicago Annenberg Challenge - some $50M from the Annenberg Foundation, which was then matched by philanthropists and business interests - to total over $100M for Chicago’s failing school system.

With the money came the need for a organization - hence the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) was formed. The Chairman of the Board was Barack Obama. William Ayers was an ex-officio board member. The two attended meetings together…how often is not yet known.

Obama and Ayers presided over a very powerful political duo: The CAC headed by Obama and The Collaborative, co-chaired by Ayers.

It allegedly worked like this: “Programs” would apply to the CAC for an educational grant. Some programs were chosen, and others were not. Before the CAC was disbanded, almost all, if not all, of the monies were spent.

Kurtz, reading from yesterday’s released documents, gave these examples of who or what received the grants:

Chosen to receive a grant:

The South Shore African Village Collaborative for their “Celebrate African-American Holiday of Juneteenth” (celebrating the Emancipation Proclamation). Some African-Americans celebrate Juneteenth instead of the Fourth of July (a report fromTexas). Kurtz commented that in his reporting of Obama’s previous church, Trinity United Church of Christ, some members told him that Juneteenth was their Independence Day, not Fourth of July (Kurtz did not say that all members held this view).

Turned down to receive a grant:

*The Chicago Algebra Project: goal to increase student achievement

*The District 5 Math Initiative: goal to aid Hispanic students in the process of learning English, to further learn math and science.

Kurtz characterized the information he viewed as showing grant preferences for ethnic identity projects. The grants were evidently not given to schools, but rather to “external partners,” to which schools sought to attach themselves - such as a South Shore African Village Collaborative.

In the meantime, after “external partners” received millions, ethnic identity didn’t help math and science scores. It is interesting to note that this Chairman of the Board position was Obama’s first “executive” experience.

There’s more: Obama’s connections to the Gamaliel Foundation, Kurtz says has a “core point” advocating for a form of “liberation theology.” He further states that his research shows that Jeremiah Wright’s Black Liberation Theology preaching is not an anomaly.

Kurtz refers to a book written by Dennis A. Jacobsen, Doing Justice - Congregations and Community Organizing. This book, according to Kurtz, embodies the views of the Gamaliel Foundation. Further he asserts that Greg Galluzo, “the most important figure” in the Gamaliel Foundation, approves Jacobsen’s book, and is also an Obama mentor. Kurtz believes that Obama was a teacher at the Gamaliel Foundation before Jacobsen wrote the book. Kurtz does not know whether Obama has read the book.

The last portion of the interview was given to callers and emails, most of which were angry that Kurtz was allowed radio time. One emailer
2008-10-05 00:30:19 UTC
because the stupid media don't press them hard enough on those issues. this is the reason i wish during the debate real people could ask questions like they did in the primary via youtube or maybe some people in the crowd.
Alfredo Garcia
2008-10-05 00:28:36 UTC
B/C they're too busy in their power-hungry cat fight against each other. They're not concerned about real issues. They're concerned about duping the uneducated Americans into voting for them.
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2008-10-05 00:28:15 UTC
Because at this point we really need to fix out screwed up economy and do something about the iranian terrorist treat.
Mike
2008-10-05 00:32:26 UTC
i think the feds should stay out of education policies at the elementary level and leave it to the states.
Wonder Woman
2008-10-05 00:28:52 UTC
because it is a contraversial subject, they are trying to concetrate on the economy subject right now because of how close we are to a depression.
Sabrina N
2008-10-05 00:29:08 UTC
Because they don't care about poor kids and other people, this election is hopeless!
Glenda B.
2008-10-05 00:32:25 UTC
Politicians really don't want an educated citizenry - it's against their best interests.
Smooch The Pooch
2008-10-05 00:30:38 UTC
You need to wait for the debate that covers that, that's what's up with that. ♥
2008-10-05 00:29:01 UTC
NOOB!


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