If Rudy was such a great mayor, as many conservatives claim, then why did the NY Times do this to him?

Question

NY Times recently snubbed their former mayor and endorsed John McCain, and Hillary Clinton on the democrat side.

As to why they didn't endorse the former mayor, they gave this account: "Giuliani is a narrow, obsessively secretive, vindictive man" who "shamelessly turned the horror of 9/11 into a lucrative business, with a secret client list, then exploited his city's and the country's nightmare to promote his presidential campaign".

Do you think that is accurate? I do. This is the same man who says he favors low taxes and lets his actions speak differently for him:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9803E7DE153EF934A25756C0A96F958260
I'm glad Mitt has exposed Rudy for the fiend he is: http://www.mymanmitt.com/mitt-romney/2007/10/romney-campaign-mayor-giuliani-sued.asp

Also, Mayor Giuliani's direct orders to send hundreds of firefighters up several dozen flights of stairs heavy equipment and no use of helicopters to put out the flames led to the death of 343 firefighters.

Answer 1

The people of NYC know better. They see right through Saint Rudy Gouliani of 911.

Answer 2

The New York Times is one of the oldest liberal rags there is. Of course, they are going to smear Giuliani. Regardless of what they think, most sane people are not interested in eight more years of the Clintoons, and they certainly don't want Barack Hussein Obama as Demander in Chief. It doesn't matter what the libtards at the New York Times think of Giuliani. He is the only Reagan Republican in this race, and it's silly to any Republican that the New York Times would brand Rudy Giuliani as being too liberal. Those guys in that firefighters' union in New York are liberals too. They would not have been satisfied with any Republican as Mayor.

Answer 3

He has blatently used the worse tragedy on American soil for political gain, over, and over. He also only campaigned in Florida. This I think was his strategy. New York, Texas, Florida, New York, California have the most delagates. He thought being from Mayor in New York would win there, half of everyone in Florida is old and from New York so he figured it was easy pickings in Fla, Bushey could get him Texas so no worries, and Cali......well he doesn't have a prayer there. He forgot though that America is full of people, not delegates. Skipping the small states shows what his agenda really is. It worked for Bush in 2000 focusing only on the big states, but we have had 8 years to pay for that & we won't be had so easy this time Rudi.

Answer 4

If I could sneer in front of cameras and seem constantly busy while doing nothing, I would hope that the New York Times would say the same thing about me.



It appears that McCain came to the Mayor's rescue, and these two may yet create an all-hero ticket to fool the gullible public.

Answer 5

Yep, Rudy's rep as this great mayor is not universally held by any means. I lived in Brooklyn during Rudy's tenure and his method for cleaning up Times Square to make it "family friendly" was to simply drive the homeless out to the boroughs and strong arm the undesirable businesses- kind of a kinder, gentler kristallnacht. I think he's a fascist in socially liberal clothing.

Answer 6

In 1981, Giuliani was named Associate Attorney General in the Reagan Administration, the third-highest position in the dept. of Justice. As Associate Attorney General, Giuliani supervised the U.S. Attorney Offices' federal law enforcement agencies, the Dept. of Corrections, the DEA, and the U.S. Marshals Service.

(National Review)



In 1983, Giuliani was appointed U. S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. He amassed a record of 4,152 convictions and 25 reversals.

(NYC.gov and National Law Journal)



In 1986, Giuliani indicted eleven organized crime figures, including the heads of New York's so-called Five Families, under the RICO Act on charges including extortion, labor racketeering, and murder for hire. Time magazine called this "Case of Cases" possibly "the most significant assault on the infrastructure of organized crime since the high command of the Chicago Mafia was swept away in 1943",

(Time Magazine)



In the Mayoral election of 1993 Democrat, David Dinkins was endorsed by The New York Times and Newsday, while Giuliani was endorsed by the New York Post. Giuliani won the election anyway.

(Newsday)



During the New York Mayoral election of 1997, a late October 1997 poll showed him as having a 68% approval rating; 70% of New Yorkers were satisfied with life in the city and 64% said things were better in the city compared to four years previously. Giuliani won again!

(Quinnipiac University poll)



The margin of victory included gains in his share of the African American vote (20% compared to 5% in 1993) and the Hispanic vote (43% from 37%) while maintaining his base of white and Jewish voters from 1993.

(New York Times)



So, while liberals were all over New York depicting Giuliani as a racist police dictator, Blacks were voting for him in droves. No wonder libs are so fearful of Giuliani.

Crime in New York city dropped from nearly 10,000 crimes per 100,000 people to less than 4,000 crimes per 100,000 people. How can libs still continue to argue with such success.

Answer 7

As a new yorker, I can tell you he cleaned up new york, but then again, he was horrible at many other things. His spending was out of control, he's a snake and he was a coward during 9/11. Ask any real new yorker and they'll tell you he just used 9/11 as political capital for his future interests.



Giuliani Partners.. Geezus..

Answer 8

It's the New York Times... the same yellow rag that recently did a "story" on the dangers of servicemembers killing (or being accused of killing) people here in the U.S after returning from combat.



Of course, they couldn't be bothered to provide context in the form of non-servicemembers performing the same actions.



I'm sure the NY Times is perfectly capable of reporting sports scores, lottery numbers, and printing comics. Anything they state with any political reference should be taken with a shaker of salt.



Edit... I didn't comment on your link to the Romney campaign because it was irrelevant to the question you asked, which was specifically about why the NY Times "snubbed" Giuliani. Maybe next time you can communicate your question more clearly?

Answer 9

NYT and moveOn, do you really need to ask? It is a very big compliment when the NYT attacks you. Rudy 08

EDIT 8:45 am Saturday:

BTW: your links show Giuliani is an economic wizard. New York City collected the commuter tax since 1966, and in 1999 NYC last the revenue of $316 million a year from this commuter tax. Only a financial wizard could have surplus in the budget while losing $316 million a year—God this man is good!



Emergency management and not the mayor should have been coordinating firefighters and equipment like helicopters, even if they were doing their job (EM) they would not have been blamed for any deaths of the workers in this terrorist situation. When many were running from the scene, Giuliani was far out doing his job as mayor, in such a dramatic and traumatic situation. His leadership ability excelled!



Giuliani's experience in standing against organized crime in New York is phenomenal and makes me seriously question any politician Democrat or Republican who would stand against him.

Answer 10

The NY Times is a liberal rag. They have no use for ANY Republicans. They endorsed McCain in the primary, but they're Democrats at heart. Who do you suppose they'll endorse when it REALLY counts?

Answer 11

The NYT never liked him. It's a liberal rag. They don't even use quotation marks half the time they "quote" someone.



Plus -he had one moment of brilliance in the way he handled 9/11. He was a pain before that with all his stupid rules- like that you could honk your horn all over the place like a maniac but if you did it near a church you could be fined $500+. Stupid crap.

Answer 12

Because the NY Times has always been afraid of Guiliani. They opposed all of the reforms he made while he was Mayor, and never gave him credit when he was right and they were wrong (which was MOST of the time!)



They waited to see who would be the biggest threat to him, and endorsed him. It happens to be McCain.



As for Hillary, the NY Times is simply endoring their "boss" anyway. The NY Times has always been a puppet for the Democratic establishment.

Answer 13

The New York Times is so left wing they are virtually Socialist.



Hillary is the most left for the Dems and McCain is the most left of the Reps.



The reason they were so wicked to Rudy is they are mostly afraid that he would kill Hillary head to head. She wouldn't even take New York from Rudy if they went head to head, and the Times is afraid of that.

Answer 14

Rotten Rudy's record speaks for itself.



May the good Lord help us if he by some sleight of hand is elected President.



Our nation simply cannot take 8 more years of Republican rule, especially if the ruler is a self-centered ego-maniac such as Guiliani.

Answer 15

They are being totally unfair to him. Put anyone else in his position and see how they would have handled it.

What he managed is an unprecedented disaster that many presidents even have never dealt with.

He is allowed to use his experience to run for presidency.



I am disappointed at him for not taling his run seriously enough to be so far behind though.

Answer 16

The NY Times has an liberal agenda. McCain is a liberal running around as a Republican, which is why they endorsed him.

Answer 17

Well look at it this way, they picked Hilary on the Demo side. What does that say about their judgment?

Answer 18

...and they are 100% right.

Answer 19

You are too funny for words. Blind would be a good one though.