Logical, rational Democratic Senator Clinton Supporters, please support Senator Obama.?

Question

What are you thinking?

If you think the superdelegates stole the vote - they did no such thing. Clinton started up approximately 200 superdelagetes over Obama in January before the race even really started, is that fair? No, that's politics, and Obama had to come from behind in every category and by every measure, and reality says Clinton was not going to win 85% of the remaining superdelegates on 06/03, so the argument is disengenuous. Give the man his dues. Both candidates fought hard, it's just he came out on top. He out fundraised her which was a big part of it. Her biggest strategic gaff was she put all her chips on super Tuesday and when she didn't come out of it the clear front runner, she had used up all her war chest, and had no backup. Obama was picking up donor steam, and her inability to attract and recruit new donors that were not maxed out was her downfall. Also, Obama won the most voter delegates in primaries and caucuses, regardless if you count Florida/Michigan half or whole, whether you give Clinton those supposed Michigan delegates her campaign says she was deserved, which is again disengenuous. She knew Edwards and Obama were removing their names from the Michigan ballot, so her campaign made a strategic decision not to, figuring the logical conclusion would be that those that still came to vote, and some would since there were other ballot initiatives on the ballot, would vote for the only viable candidate ON the ballot - her. All sides (Clinton, Edwards, and Obama) had strategic reasons for their stances in Michigan, so to say that anyone really has a clear factual knowledge of what the results would have been if all things hd been equal is not telling the whole truth.

He won, and I'm sorry your candidate lost, but seriously, grow up, and look at the bigger picture. McCain is weak on economy self admittedly, strong on supression of freedom (he's flip-flopped on and now supports touture bills, despite his personal past) and weak on foreign policy, makiing major policy gaffs daily, unable to keep Hamas straight from Al Queda straight from Shite militia's. McCain is pro-life; good bye a woman's right to choose; there is a good possibility two liberal memberes of the supreme court might retire in the next four years. How can you vote for a man that even the right wing neocons have been only tacitly embraced. McCain doesn't stand for anything, he flip flops depending on his audience. He is a decorated veteran, worthy of our thanks and praise, but that does not make him qualified for or the ideal man to be president. If a war hero is your criteria for executive leadership, I remind you this country elected an actor named Ronald Reagan as president as well; and was 18 million supporters were willing to give a former first lady with only four more years Senate experience (disregarding Obama's Illinois State Senate experience) the opportunity. I beg of you, what is the criteria that makes a candidate worthy of holding the highest office?

This is Obama's record, which is a good progressive record. http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Barack_Obama.htm

One of my favorite Obama initiative is has co-sponsored the now passed and in force "Governement Accountability Act", which is a big win for transparent government.

Read the facts, and get your emotions in check. Obama himself has done nothing wrong to Clinton, it's time to realize being spiteful punishes all of America.

Answer 1

LOOK AT THE ISSUES: i don't understand how a Hillary supporter can possibly vote for McCain if he/she is looking at the issues. What fools, voting out of spite. Obama and Hillary have very similar policies...any minute difference was magnified during the primary season to try distinguish the two similar candidate. The only reasonable rationale for voting would be experience but thats hardly the reason why so many Hillary supporters are voting for McCain. Some obama people have been inflamed the situation but a sensible voter would be looking at the issues anyways.



By the way another great site about the issues is votesmart.org...shows voting records for every bill with a brief descriptions and more...

Answer 2

You point out John McCains shortcomings, and as a devout, unapologetic, true conservative (no "neo" about it, although that's a stupid term anyway, kind of like "liberal" - has nothing to do with true liberalism) I have to agree, to a certain extent. He's less than perfect, flat wrong about certain things, but needs to make no apologies for his statesmanship, nor his ethics.



What I can't understand about this cult-like Obama obsession is that he represents the worst of the worst when it comes to symbolism over substance, and old time Chicago Dem corruption. What are ya'll so fascinated with? There's no change here....He can't ever seem to recall any of his closest associates and advisors illegal, corrupt, anti-American rhetoric and activities - people he has had relationships with for two decades and more. Sounds like he took a not-paying-attention pill from the Bush/Clinton (you pick) medicine cabinet - sorry, the Rev was just one guy, and I hate the political guilt by association game, but when you have friends who were members of the Weather Underground (murderers, make no mistake), and you add a big dose of Tony Rezko, with whom the Obama's are closely tied personally and professionally, you can't just say "oh I'm all about change" and expect anyone to believe it...unless, of course, you are an Ivy League elitist type who believes Americans are asleep and/or stupid (and based on the last four Presidential elections, I could go there). Clearly, he is more of the same. Only worse, because he is a Marxist in Democrat clothing. That, above all else (and there are other things), renders him unqualified to be the President of a free nation. If you want to be a Socialist and pay higher taxes, there are lots of countries you can move to. You won't even have to vote, your dictator will handle that for you. You won't be bothered with that pesky constitution, either...what a relief from all that thinking and critical analysis.



As far as the bitter Clintonistas - they've reaped what they've sown. The Clintons trained the neo-Dems in a particularly ugly, brutal, cannibalistic form of combat politics that got them to the White House, and slapped down any and all opposition through their particular brand of ruthless destruction. The problem with cannibals is they turn on their own when they're hungry. Sorry, Hil, your delgates ate you for lunch. Good luck getting them to vote for your guy, though,they won't stop gnashing their teeth for about two years - and then they'll blame George Bush (it doesn't matter which one, it's his fault).



So, Obama, you are the PC candidate...a new religion as well as a new political party. Gross, seriously.

Answer 3

It's not a question of getting over anything - that is demeaning to supporters of both candidates and unfair. Rather it is a question of realizing which candidate - whether the nominee is Clinton or Obama - more closely represents their own positions. It should then become clear that Obama is far closer to Hillary than McCain will ever be. We do not need John McCain setting back Women's rights decades.

Answer 4

I have grown up dear, many years ago.



Part of my maturing process was to make sure that I did not do something stupid like yanking a straight-party vote just because "it's my party". Anyone who considers themselves to be educated enough to read the newspaper, should do the same thing.



McCain is not going to be responsible for the repeal of Roe v. Wade, nor is he going to be singlehandedly responsible for driving oil prices to $500/barrel, or bringing down the country. I have heard these scare tactics before, I have been on this planet for a lot longer than you have, at least by the sound of it, and I am voting for *my* purposes, not my "party's" purposes. Because I have a party, but my party's shenanigans, and my party's endorsement of a racist hatemonger, have driven me to the other party.



And that, my dear, is just how it goes. I would submit to you, to get your emotions in check, and stop your mindless droning. That's just what Senator Obama wants, mindless rubber duckies bobbing downstream in his wake. That way, he doesn't have to talk about issues, he can just say "This way!", and everyone will follow.



Not what I consider a good decision, as an educated person. The day I vote for my party instead of my candidate, is the day that I no longer deserve to vote.

Answer 5

I think you are failing to realize that people felt Hillary was the best candidate and they are going to have to be convinced that Obama has much to offer. Telling people who supported Clinton to grow up is very condescending and doesn't take into account their own reasons for not automatically switching to Obama. Their reasons are every bit as valid to them as yours are to you.



Frankly, Hillary and her supporters have been badly treated throughout this primary. Obama didn't have to do any negative campaigning himself because the media, the DNC, and the Obama supporters did it for him. If you think that is a good kind of politics, you are going to live and learn. I'm old and I understand the old style of campaigning. There are good reasons for it that go beyond the obvious. This primary has been obnoxious, one sided, and leaves the country in a dangerous position as far as I'm concerned.

Answer 6

I'm looking at the bigger picture and I just don't believe he has the ability to do what is necessary to lead this country in the way it needs to be led RIGHT NOW. And before you jump all over me, I'm not voting for McCain either.



Perhaps if he had spent a few more years in the senate, had some foreign experience and things weren't nearly so dire, I might've jumped on the Obama bandwagon, but I don't think a man who, a year ago, said himself that he wasn't running for the presidency because he "wasn't ready" and has yet to even really prove himself in the senate is prepared to take over this nation's highest office in the shambles that Bush has left it in.



Besides, we all know that with this current mess, if he does in fact get into office, he won't be able to change much, if anything at all, because he'll be spending his entire 4-8 years cleaning up after Dubya.

Answer 7

Oh stop,

Hillary clinton supporters aren't logical and rational

we are all nuts, right Wright?

So we will vote for McCain because we're crazy!

Take that Obama!

Oh and if you are so concerned about a woman's right to chose why the hell did you support the male candidate?

Answer 8

Sorry ... no can do . looks like Obama supporters are running a bit scared lately . you have good reason to be to . the DNC pissed a lot of Hillary supporters off . and we don't forget so easy .

Answer 9

How about no... Unless Clinton is a part of the Obama team to get this country back on its feet, there's no way in h3ll that Obama has the networking, ability, or connections to get our money machine back to fiscal balance!

Answer 10

no i will not vote for him, he can promises anything,, but he has not been in public office long enough to have any credibility sorry but I want a president of this country with experience with proven love for this country so far i have not seen that from obama hussain barak,, he's not my choice,, sorry i dont agree with you.

Answer 11

No, and stop asking! Never! You and the DNC can have a Obama lost party!

Answer 12

Call us emotional all you want. McCool has my vote because he is the better of the 2, plus the DNC needs to learn a valuable lesson that just because we don't riot, doesn't mean we aren't vindictive and will just get with the program. We can hurt them, and we will. McCool and Obama, there is no choice, McCool wins.

Answer 13

Obama is a joke



He is terrible on the economy



Wants to bring us "change" in the form of repackaged Jimmy Carter policies



His record is the MOST LEFT of any senator!! How the hell is that supposed to be good??

Answer 14

With Hillary out of the race, I will vote McCain, we don't need a racist and someone green in office.

Answer 15

Hillary Clinton: "I have said throughout the campaign that I would strongly support Senator Obama if he were the Democratic Party's nominee....."My differences with Senator Obama are small compared to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans."

Answer 16

Its pretty funny seeing you Obama followers in panic mode, every other question is begging the Hillary supporters to go Obama.



Why are you so nervous?



Quit begging, it really makes you sad.



For 17 months you people were bashing Hillary in the most unfair way, now your begging for her votes?

Answer 17

Well, I am an Obama supporter who believes the exact same thing. Hillary will endorse Obama and if her supporters respect her then they will listen to her intelligence. But they don't want to educate themselves...by the way it's a small few that won't vote for Obama. I've spoken to many who say no way they'd vote for 4 more years of Bush. They research and vote issues instead of vote with emotion.



The Hillary supporters who will vote for McSame are actually republicans. They don't believe in prochoice. They don't believe in same sex marriage, etc. They want Roe v Wade overturned, they want more tax breaks for the wealthy, and they want the economy to be so low that there's no way to dig out of the hole.



Obama/Clinton '08

Answer 18

Beating Hillary is not saying much to brag about

Answer 19

Logical Hillary supporters definitely do not want a republican (especially one who is eeriely much too much like Mr. Bush) in office.

Answer 20

NO! Obama is an anti-American Socialist, not a Democrat.

Answer 21

Anyone who says they were "driven" to vote Republican was never a Democrat in the first place.

Answer 22

Stop begging, it's pathetic, let me put it to you this way



Obama supporters 17,000,000,000





Mccain supporters 15,000,000,000

+

Hilary supporters 18,000,000,000

+

Independents 10,000,000,000= 43 million voters for Mccain



Yup obama has no chance, sorry please play again lol

Answer 23

Will not vote for McCain. McCain votes against women's issues. I don't want to help a man put women on death row for having a legal abortion like McCain wants to do.

Answer 24

She won the popular vote!



What happened last time this happened???

Answer 25

its ok most hill supporters will vote Obama

Answer 26

Thanks but no thanks. Obama is a liar, racist, and anti american. I prefer a war hero that knows what is best for the USA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyqk1LsCDBQ





http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/votes/missed/

http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080525/OPINION01/805250306

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20080521/pl_usnw/rnc__obama_s_lobbyist_hypocrisy