Question:
Should MI and FL delegates be seated or should Howard Dean grow a spine and stick by the rules he set?
the man
2008-02-15 08:49:06 UTC
Howard Dean made the ruling that if any other state moves their primaries up before Feb 5th they would lose their delegates. If Mi and FL stayed on Feb 5th they would count BUT THEY DIDNT and per Dean's rules they lost their delegates. At that time everyone, including Obama, Clinton and Edwards agreed. It wasnt until Hillary saw that the race is close and that she would benefit that she now insists that the rules be changed...of course any change works in her favor of course. Should Dean say rules are rules or should he bow down to the Clinton machine.
Seven answers:
darrin b
2008-02-15 08:57:17 UTC
he should grow a spine and stick to the rules.



but rather than do that, he said that it would not be him who will make the decision as to whether or not the delegates would be seated.



how convenient of him.



and how dare hillary make a stink about seating these delegates.



oh, my bad. i forgot. she and bill dance by their own drum. laws and rules don't apply to them.



should they seat the delegates at the convention, it wouldn't be fair to:



all the states who abided by the DNC's rules and didn't move up their primaries and/or caucuses.



all the democratic candidates who abided by the DNC's rules and removed their names from the ballots and/or did not campaign in those states.



all the people who voted "uncommitted."



all the people who didn't vote at all because they knew their delegates were stripped.



no way should the delegates be seated. rules are rules.
RTO Trainer
2008-02-15 16:58:04 UTC
I did some number crunching the other day. The only scenario I found where Clinton wins the nomination, aside from her doing far better in the remianing primaries than she has done so far, is if MI and FL are seated.



And even that required Edwards to throw all his support to Clinton. It's quite possible that Edwards, with his 26 delegates, will make the decision as to who the Democrat nominee is all by himself.



So, if there is a cabal out to get Mrs. Clinton nominated, they will seat MI and FL.
chris d
2008-02-15 16:52:40 UTC
Rules are rules . In MI, Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot. Everyone knows when Obama campaigns and interacts with the voters, he tends to cut leads hillary had.
Gerty
2008-02-15 16:56:49 UTC
Considering that many of the democratic candidates names in Michigan weren't even on the ballot (!) it's hard to see that as a valid election. They either shouldn't count the delagates, or have a real primary and see who wins.
alyosha_snow_crash
2008-02-15 16:58:46 UTC
I want to see the rules adhered to- If you do this, this will happen. Needs to happen in parenting, needs to happen in the Democratic process :o)
Anil P
2008-02-15 16:54:42 UTC
The second one.
2008-02-15 17:00:07 UTC
Lol. Democrats are such HYPOCRITES. They rabble rouse and yell DISCRIMINATION if one vote is not counted. And then, ROFL, had the gall to DISENFRANCHISE their own.



Democrats are -LIARS-


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