Questions for all socialist!!?

Question

I was always raised conservative, now that i'm an adult im more of a moderate. More of a libertarian.
Personally I believe wealth and success should be determined by how hard you work. Not entitled just for being a US citizen.
I recently heard an analogy where politics is a circle, Go to right you end up in the early 20th century guilded age. To left and you end up in well... soviet russia. But stay in the middle, and everything works well. And thats wy im sick im the far right and far left

So heres the deal im going to be as conservative and capitalistic as possible, and you help me get a fresh perspective. ALSO MANY OF THESE QUESTIONS WILL SOUND VERY IGNORANT AND STEREOTYPICAL. If you think one is stupid just skip itt




now I want to get in the mind of some hardcore socialist! NO TROLLING Here are my questions


1 How can you justify the Obama administration spending trillions of dollers that we can't pay back?

2 How can you blame Bush for the failed economy? People say war debt, but Obamas debt is way bigger.

First off, before I ask this one, let me just say I support the equal tax rate if all Americans.
3 Why do you consider the rich evil? Because of a rich person I have a job, favorite clothing brand, music instruments to play, a favorite drink brand to drink.

4 Why would taxing the rich help me? They dont want to loose money so they lay off workers and raise prices. That doesn't sound very helpful to me.

5 I understand Obama has made Welfare obtainable even if you do not have a job or arn't even looking for one. Wy should welfare and foodstamps be so easy to get?

6 Why do you not support the war in Iraq? Saddam was an evil dictator responsible for the kurdish gencide of 1000s of people using chemical weapons. He broke treaties by putting troops in spots he said he wouldn't. We gave him WMDS (Chemical/Nukes) so we had a probable cause. He did get rid of them.. but wouldnt let us go in to make sure. We knew he was crazy enough to use WMDs if he had them.

7 People say the war was over oil, what could bush gain from simply getting us oil? The amount of money spent on the war doesn't justify the gain of oil. (Besides we didn't get any oil from Iraq)

8 Wy are liberals so hostile to the rich? We have one of the biggest middle classes in the world, so its not a guilded age. Obama went to one of the most expenive private schools in Amerrics. Rich people are usaually huge philanthropist. JDR pretty much funded the entire recreation of Willamsburg Va our nations first major city. Romney gave over 100 million to charitys. I thank Bill gates for a computer to type this on.

9 Wy are conservatives stereotyped as Rich, white, sexist and racist? Im not rich, im middle class, in fact my grandparents were poor but encouraged their children to work hard in life. All of my family members are very succesfull. Non of my conservative friends i know are rich... the only rich person I know is my dads best friend who lives in a small house and travels the world with his wife helping people around the world and giving food to African children Heres the catch..... hes not even white.
Im not sexist, i dont know anyone who is, there are regulations to prevent unfair wages for women.

10 Wy do you want healthcare reform? Sure I love helping poor people but some people just refuse to helpthemselves. I love my buddys who go out waste money and use money for drugs..... but I don't want to pay their medical bills. Why should I have to

11 and finally... whats so broken about capitalism. From my own experience, its working. My brother is a great example. He never was into video games and tv. He focused on his schoolwork. He was highly ambitious, he worked for Wendys, and became their best worker. I work there because he was so good. He left that and worked with labor ready which gives people jobs on the spot doing physical labor. He met many poor people who were working there. Many were great people. Many only worked when they were out of welfare. He was in the top ten students at my school. He got accepted into VA TeCH and is at the top of every single one of his classes, He took a year off, started working for vovlo Penta and he was so good they asked him if he wanted a full time job. He refused because he wants to go bigger. He now works for GE where he helps with the production of top secret plane material

Ok my rants over, help me see a fresh perspective on left politics

Answer 1

how many socialists do you expect to find in the US? you can call anyone who voted for Obama socialist if you want to, but that doesn't make it so.

Answer 2

From a market socialist:



1: Capitalism runs on debt to the banks. Obama is doing what he must, just like every previous president has.



2: Capitalism always moves in booms and busts. Corporate profits have steadily increased during the :economy crisis: but there's been almost no recovery for working people. Blaming one party over the other is irrelevant, when they are both serving the banks



3: Rich people aren't evil. But the "owners" of the means of production dictate the livelihoods of everyone else, and as a socialist, I oppose this.



4: If you are talking about taxes, you are talking about liberalism, not socialism. I'll give this a pass.



5: Welfare serves to pacify the lowest social groups, so they don't riot in the streets. Capitalism needs welfare to remain stable.



6: Might have been more doable through supporting internal rebels, though that's all theory now.



7: Oil is a rather simplified explanation. The war helped establish a "permanent war" that would encourage more money to be spent in private military contractors, excellent no-bid contracts for the reconstruction and a power base in the middle east.



8: Liberals think that taxing rich people will make poor people go away.



9: A lot of interesting things were written after the 2012 elections about demographics. The republicans only got a majority in the white, male vote, since they lean towards those policies.



10: I have never heard a compelling argument for why medical care and rehabilitation from drugs should not be a human right.



11: This question is better asked to someone in a Bangladeshi sweat shop, someone losing their house because their job laid them off, a single mother working 2 jobs just to keep her kids with a roof, or union organizers beaten and murdered in some banana republic.

Answer 3

I understand where your coming from, because I too... Was raised ultra conservative, & on top of that.. Both my parents, were Ordained Evangelical Ministers.... In my case, that was 100 years ago, being raised, in the 1950's. & 60's.... In 1968, after just turning 18, my friends & neighbors, decided, I should take part, in an Asian conflict... This was while, the Democrats, had control... So as I look back on it, I can see, I had good reason, to stay Republican... I got out of the Army, in 1970, still having, a conservative attitude... As soon as I was old enough to vote, I voted Republican, & did, all the way up to, & including, Reagan... Actually voting for Reagan, his first term... During the eight years of Reagan, things in general, simply wasn't at all that good, for organized labor... But excellent, for the already ultra rich... Millionaire, turned into billionaire.... Con artist like Bain Capital, were illegal, until Reagan made them legal... Socialism, for the masses, was being cut back, big time... While Socialism for the already ultra rich, was becoming more available... I watched on TV, Reagan supporters, getting on TV, saying the American public, was living to good, & needs to tighten they're belts.... 1984, was actually the first time, I ever voted Democrat... I simply couldn't find any good reason, other than a few moral issues, to vote Republican.... Reagan, & the Republicans, made it perfectly clear... They didn't have my best interest, in mind... Only the already, incredibly wealthy... After Clinton, came up with, what was ultimately called, don't ask, don't tell.... I registered, as an Independent.... But sense Reagan... I've adopted the same strategy, the ultra rich have... I vote, for what's best, for my wallet..... If Bain Capital, stealing peoples retirement, is Capitalism... I think I'll go, with Socialism...

Answer 4

I'm a revolutionary socialist from Irelad who thinks the system is broken and needs replacement not a fixing, but I'm going to answer the questions from a more moderate social democratic perspective.



1) Keynsian economics. Government needs to spend money during downturns in the economy to minimize the bust. If you go the way of austerity, you take money out of the economy, and it makes the crisis worse. On the flip side when the economy is in the boom part of the cycle you should tax more both to stop the economy overinflating and bursting, as well as getting resources to set aside for when the economy inevitably faces a downturn (boom and bust being an inherent quality of capitalism).



While the American economy still has much improvement needed, stimulus has caused some signs of recovery. Whereas in the austerity driven economies of europe, we probably haven't even seen the worst of the crisis yet with rising unemployment and no serious signs of recovery.



3) I don't view the rich as evil (some specific ones I do, but not as a whole) But I would look at the relationship between the capitalist and the worker in a different way. The rich derive their profit and wealth from the productive work of the working class. So instead of viewing it in terms of 'I have a job because of the rich' I'd view it in terms of 'The elite have their riches because of the work I do'



As well... the majority of the wealthy are not entrepeneurs, they are merely people with money that make nothing, come up with no new ideas etc. They merely invest money they have to make more money.



4) Why should the rich contribute more? First of all the gap between rich and poor over the last 50 years has grown HUGELY. For example, in the US between 1978 and 2011, the average CEO's income has increased by 725%, whereas the workers whose work actually creates the wealth of these companies only increased by 5.7%

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5) Why are jobs so difficult to get. why are major corporations that are making massive profits being let away with downsizing, outsourcing, and sending jobs to low wage low rights economies overseas? Most people want to work, they want to feel productive and useful.





10) American healthcare costs more per person for less coverage of the population than any other western developed country. So even from a 'conservative' perspective it should make sense as it would cost less. Plus I don't like the idea of a profit motivation in health.

It only makes sense that privatised healthcare would cost more, because at the end of the day, all the pharmaceutical companies, HMO's, private hospitals etc they all need to grab their pound of flesh in profit. The primary motivation in healthcare should be healthcare and not the profit margins.



And lastly. What's so broken with capitalism... dear thats a very complicated to explain. But let me hightlight a few points that I feel are key points.



a) Over the past 25 years or so you have seen an erosion of all the gains that the post war generation fought so hard to gain. With all our modern technology and advancements, life should be getting better, more comfortable, more stable, wealthier etc. but for the vast majority exactly the opposite has been the trend. The relatively well paid jobs of our mothers and fathers generation, where one person in a house could earn enough to support the family, these are being replaced with precarious jobs often on low paid short term contracts, no pensions, healthcare etc. We are facing a race to the bottom.



b) The return of rates of profits have been steadily declining, and this has forced companies that used to make money from making THINGS, to start to engage in basically go gambling in the world of financial speculation. It was that crazy casino economy that caused this most recent crisis.



c) The last time the world faced such a systematic and deep economic crisis, it took the destruction and arms manufacturing of WW2 to get out of it.



d) The whole notion of unemployment. With so many people in this world going hungry, or without homes etc there is LOADS of work to be done.



I personally think the system is broken and needs to be replaced by one where the PEOPLE and not the capitalist elite or existing big governments, organise the economy and society based upon their needs run in a truly democratic fashion. Not this sham democracy that exists in most countries, where once every few years we vote for people that do damn all, and meanwhile most of the people with power are completely unaccountable.



my rant over now :P

Answer 5

you in basic terms named 3 Communist international locations. nicely Russia is Capitalist, yet i visit take a bounce of logic an anticipate you propose the former united statesS.R. regardless of the shown fact that your ingredient is valid. you may word much less severe situations like France, Norway, and Sweden. those countires are Socialist. i could argue that they are extra loose. they are in a position to make a telephone call and not have somebody hear in legally. human beings on typical tend to be happier in those 3 international locations than in u . s ..

Answer 6

We are far behind the rest of the civilized world and they are all socialist.

Answer 7

All politicians are socialists.