Question:
If Obama was PROVEN he is not a natural born American citizen, what will happen to him?
Google Ron Paul!
2009-03-02 22:34:06 UTC
1) Will he be impeached?
2) Will the people LET him be impeached?
3) Will Obama leave by himself or his whole Administration? If by himself, then his V.P. will be the President.

The people should let him be impeached. Not only is he Unconstitutionally a President, but he lied to us. And no just because he is a President now, doesn't mean he cannot be impeached for holding the only office a natural-born citizen can only hold, Constitutionally. Actually, he must be impeached ESPECIALLY since he lied!

If Obama is not a citizen, then his whole campaign is fraudulent, and they must ALL go. Then what will happen to the Executive Branch of the Government?
Fourteen answers:
nj
2009-03-02 22:46:55 UTC
Okay. Here are the answers to your questions. But first a few things to keep in mind. Be reminded, such allegations have not been proven and they probably never will be. Second, there is no direct precedent of anything like this, so my answers are speculative, but also rational.



1. If it were proven, he should be impeached by the House of Representatives and then removed from office by the Senate. Although it is important to keep in mind that fellow democrats to have control in both houses. Thus, getting the supermajority (two thirds majority) in the Senate which is required to remove the President from office may be difficult given his popularity in the party.



2. I'm not sure what you mean by this question. It is not the people that would be hearing his trials in the House and Senate. However, if there is enough public outrage or conversely very little opposition to him staying, the influence of the general public could be very important.



3. Obama would leave by himself. The House and the Senate would ONLY try him. Not his entire administration. He was the only one that was allegedly born out of the country and subject to impeachment and dismissal. The fact that he nominated the entire cabinet is immaterial.



Hope those answers are to your satisfaction.
2009-03-03 09:58:09 UTC
Keep in mind that this is much bigger than just a birth certificate. This is about a VAULT birth certificate, not the kind you get when you request one from the dept. of human services. The VAULT birth certificate is nothing like the one that was published by the Obama campaign (remember, it was not published by an independent agency/group/individual)



Yes, there have been a couple individuals who have submitted motions and briefs that did it out of pure malice or other unkown reasons that may not be honorable, but most of them are completely valid in the purest sense of putting forth a viable motion with the Courts.



Courts throw out motions all the time for an unlimited number of reasons - most of which have everything to do with structure, wording, citations, disrespect, and then intent. Above this, though, is the personal preference (yes, it's true) of the judge reviewing the brief. A judge can deem a motion as frivolous or without merit just because they want to. They are not required to provide precedence, case study, or any kind of reason other than they don't want to hear it.



IF it is proven he is not eligible and the Courts decision reflects this, it then becomes a 100% US Constitutional matter. Ultimately, the Supreme Court will be requested (term used loosely) to review. Getting through the Federal Courts is one thing, but then it's another to get it into the Supreme Court. If a Federal Court sides that he is not eligible, you can bet your dollars the Supreme Court will review the second they receive the motions and briefs.



Some Constitutional experts say that Biden would NOT become president because the entire campaign was run and the election was won under the premise Obama was eligible. The Constitution states that the election would go to the candidate who came in 2nd in the election.



Others say that Biden would become president because the election was won, regardless of eligibility, with Obama as the winner.



Imagine Biden being president? LMAO. You thought Bush had a public speaking problem and put his foot in his mouth often? Oh boy...



As it has been written, there is no precedence for this. Of course this is all speculation as to whether he is a citizen. I'm sure the lib whackjobs (yes, all of you) will receive this with disdain. Why? Because this is a protection of the U.S. and the U.S. Constitution which lib. whackjobs despise. Keep in mind, I am reaching out to the lib. whackjobs and not just Democrats. Many Democrats (including my wife), love the hell out of this beloved country of ours and are disgusted by Obama and his systematic destruction of our country.
2009-03-02 22:49:43 UTC
But he IS an American citizen with a Hawaii birth certificate.



On the other hand, if it were proven that he is not a natural born citizen, he would be ineligible to hold the office of President. I seriously doubt that impeachment would be used since impeachment is used for "high crimes and misdemeanors while in office." Most likely he would have to resign and VP Biden would become President.
wendy c
2009-03-02 22:59:55 UTC
You are right.

If he lied.. you can throw out the entire govt of the United States. You can throw out each and every nut who completely ignores that ALL GOVT OFFICIALS ARE COMPLETELY INVESTIGATED.

For some bizarre reason.. you think the govt is that stupid, and with all this hysteria, no one has actually checked the records in Hawaii. In fact, the state of Hawaii has checked, looked at it, didn't call homeland security.

The certificate posted online is totally real. No freaking "forgery expert" means anything.. unless they personally broke into the files in Hawaii, they don't know what is or is not forged. All that talk about photoshop and pixels are useless.

Yes, you got lied to.. by those who are having a field day with their publicity and stirring up gullible people, who cannot even think this through.

He won't be impeached, because ... he told the truth.
yutsnark
2009-03-02 22:51:17 UTC
There's no precedent. I assume he would have to leave office, but I'm doubt that there is any broad agreement about the specifics. I'm not sure that an impeachment hearing would be involved. Possibly his election would be considered null and void. It's hard for me to imagine that Biden would be thrown out, because the people did elect him. My guess is that he would ascend to the presidency.



In the last part of your question, you forget that this is just hypothetical. In fact, it is just hypothetical.
darcy m
2009-03-02 22:48:33 UTC
Oh I am being to feel so sad for the Fascist's they are SO lost



Newsflash...he is your president we voted him in without your kind



If they prove the earth is flat will you move?

If the sun comes out will you cry?



If for some god for saken reason and that will not be one of them...the Democrats will still rule the country as they have move reps



VP is Joe Biden he would take over...sorry still have to wait another 100 years to get back into power and the country is not ready for total fascism only 46%.....we fight wars too
Dept. of Redundancy Department
2009-03-02 22:57:16 UTC
To quote Adam Savage of "The Mythbusters" show on Discovery: "There's yer problem, Sparky: your use of the word 'if.' You shoulda stopped right there."



Careful: someone might turn you in to the SPCA, for BEATING A DEAD HORSE.
Scott Y
2009-03-02 22:39:04 UTC
The VP would assume duties as President as set forth in the Constitution.
Ron Burgundy
2009-03-02 22:37:56 UTC
Then he can not be President and anything he signed as President would be null and void. I am assuming Biden would become President and appoint a new VP.
2009-03-02 22:41:23 UTC
Proven in the court of bigot opinions? Republican judge in a federal court declared Obama's Hawaii birth certificate to be 100% genuine and legal.
2009-03-02 22:41:21 UTC
Joe Biden would be the new president.



But this isn't going to happen, because he is an American citizen. The lawyer who says he isn't is a fruit cake.
Suckers!
2009-03-02 22:54:42 UTC
He'll skate. You wouldn't want our first black President to fail, would you? That simply wouldn't be affirmative would it?
Free At Last
2009-03-02 22:39:20 UTC
This is the same rant you used against Bill Clinton 16 years ago to the day. Get over your childish unwillingness to accept that face that you are horribly horribly wrong when it comes to politics.
Nathan
2009-03-02 22:46:27 UTC
Sadaam Hussein would become president.


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