Question:
Is the back bench call for an early EU referendum a Tory ploy?
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2013-10-06 04:47:01 UTC
Adam Afriyie (Tory MP)said voters were "not convinced" by the prime minister's promise to put the issue to an "in or out" referendum in 2017 - after the next general election.

Mr Afriyie - who has denied newspaper claims he is being groomed to replace party leader David Cameron - said he would table an amendment to the European Union (Referendum) Bill on Monday.

The above was on a number of news bulletins this morning.

I do not like the Tory party, I do not like what they are doing to my pocket and the pockets of the vast majority of "Hard Working" people that they so love to claim they are supporting.

They genuinely fear that EU membership is going to be a critical factor come 2015, and they are fully aware of the massive growth in support for UKIP, who are, any way you cut it, the only Party to fully set out their stall on this one, no equivocation, no ifs or buts.

"Call me Dave" knows that many who are defecting to UKIP are doing so with a sense of trepidation, but nonetheless are doing so because they believe that we need out of Europe,
they see and feel first hand the effects of droves of Eastern Europeans mopping up jobs at prices that British people simply could not survive on, and they feel the pain of the Tory love for private sector over public sector.

He knows that unless he appears to be doing what a growing number of voters want, he is in real danger of being out on his disgustingly rich backside.

I think this story is a deception on a par with the Syria vote, once again it shows his total arrogance and disregard for the average voter, it shows utter contempt, and the fact that it may work, shows me why we have continued to vote in the same flavours of Government election after election, no matter how royally they screw us. Your views
Four answers:
tom
2013-10-06 06:16:35 UTC
I think it is an attempt at gaining publicity for this guy so he can move towards making a run for leader of the party.



Problem is, everyone knows when the Tories turn right they lose support. Cameron pretended to be centre right and "won" the election (with the 7th worst election result for the Tories since the 1850s) and then went massively right claiming his manifesto meant nothing because he was in coalition (with a LIBERAL party, go figure).



Just like when Labour go too far left they will never win.
2013-10-06 14:50:12 UTC
Tory: Won't give a referendum, that is why it is like the Lisbon Treaty Debate, kick it on until after the next election and then drop it on some spurious grounds.



LibDems: Won't give a referendum, because too many of them get EU Pensions and want EU jobs. On the Lisbon Treaty they refused to support a referendum unless it was an In/Out Referendum, now they are saying they won't support an In/Out Referendum.



Labour: The point blank refuse to give a referendum on anything to do with the EU, perhaps it has something to do with juicy stipends such as those enjoyed by Blair, Mandelson, the Kinnocks, Ashton et al, and those Labour MPs who hope to join the Gravy Train. G-d forbid a Workers Party would allow the Workers to have a say, that would be democracy and not Marxism.



If people really want to sort out the deficit, saving £14 billion a year with no cuts just by leaving the EU, getting back control of the courts, borders, opening up trade to the rest of the world and creating jobs, improving the NHS and Education, they know what they have to do, and it isn't vote Tory, Labour or LibDem.
?
2013-10-06 12:17:52 UTC
truthfully and frankly yes we would say so we doubt very much if the right wingers would even allow the public to think they had any say, what you must remember is that in politics it is what the politicians can get out of it first not the public first it may seem that this is it, the end of the migrants the end of the stupid human rights act and so however if the Uk did do itself and uncouple from the shackle of the EU be sure what you are asking for!!



the left wing, or the right and the soppy in betweens such a the lib Dem's will have some invested interest this is how they ensure they make money out of the public what ever the weather while they cut off people and cut out the access that people have to rights law and freedom from this ugly right wing regime, they are of course saddling the public with more problems to which the attitude is the same as before especially with the right wingers in that should they rightfully get the boot in 2015 they are likely due to 'safe seats,' and business backers bankers and so on, from over seas and investors to sit on the team bench and wait for another chance to fleece the public.



this who stupid stab at the public in the form of waving this might if could if, if, if, or this and that, or, is just a pathetic circus act that has been done now for the last 10 years the right wing need the EU because they are part of the greed machine that feeds their own ill gotten gains, they have no intent of ever giving the public a say.



the method of kicking the public is easy only allow registered voters, and you know that the right wingers will vote in, not out only them alive or have any right to vote will be counted the left and most certainly the lib Dem's will vote in.



[:x:[if in the event of]:x:] that the end of the EU came then you could have a bigger problem of the right wing trying to make the UK into some type of pseudonym korea type thing.
?
2013-10-06 11:54:36 UTC
The Tory party back benches are all running scared of U.K..I.P and so is Cameron they will try to hold onto power regardless if it's good for the country or not. The Tory front bench are just a load of Eaton rich boy's having fun. And we are all paying the price


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