Question:
Has Obama released his original long form birth certificate?
Repairmanjack
2008-11-28 21:30:34 UTC
If so, does anyone have a link?
Twenty answers:
King's Kid <><
2008-11-28 21:36:34 UTC
No, no, no!! He has shown a faked one that people in Hawaii say can't possibly be real. In the meantime some of his own family members in Hawaii have stated that he was not born in Hawaii but in Mozambique.

Unless we see a real honest birth certificate how should we believe him? And what happens if we find out he wasn't born here? Do we still allow him to be President. I say NO! Under that situation I think the Vice President elect would take office. (As much as I dread that one.)
racism is unbecoming
2008-11-28 21:38:08 UTC
Long form? My original birth certificate is one sheet of paper. It is rather attractive, however, with a print of the hospital and my foot prints at the top.





My siblings were born in a different town (same state) than I was. Their originals are very plain compared to mine- no foot prints, no hospital logo. When my son was born, I was very disappointed that the hospital itself did not issue a signed certificate. His came from the board of health, with no MD signature, no mention of the hospital, nor his time of birth or weight, etc. Only his name, date of birth, my name and his father's.



Your claim that Obama's is somehow not genuine, based on not having the frills that mine did, is incorrect.



Plain Jane~ If you were a man, I think I'd be in love with you!
2008-11-28 22:34:34 UTC
He has not shown a copy to the public, to my knowledge, but then why would he?



Hawaii has it, they have said they have it, and they say he was born there, and the FBI by law was required to verify it before he could be elected to office, and Hawaii has a policy which makes it hard for a person to get a copy of their OWN long form birth certificate, so unless he had the original..
vail
2016-10-13 11:51:55 UTC
by way of fact he has already released a superbly legal qualified replica of his delivery checklist, interior the only format Hawaii now subject concerns. understanding the scientific institution and surgeon isn't mandatory to be certain if somebody is a organic born citizen. delivery on US soil is sufficient for that -- parental prestige does not rely. officers in Hawaii have stated he become born in Hawaii, the certificates become filed decrease than each week after the date of delivery, there is not any notation that the rfile become amended. branch of wellbeing officers in Hawaii HAVE released what they are legally waiting to, that's index documents that a male baby with Obama's legal call become born in Hawaii. Obama has shown he's a organic born citizen to the satisfaction of the Electoral college and the Congress (the only 2 bodies tasked via the form to qualify the President), and the folk of the U. S. via the 2008 election. freeing a duplicate of the long-style won't sway everyone who thinks he's ineligible, and anybody else already is common with he's. He positive aspects no longer something via freeing it. in case you doubt his skills, touch you congressional delegation by way of fact the only Constitutional thank you to get rid of a sitting president is via impeachment, trial, and conviction. Or foyer your state legislature to require evidence of organic born citizenship for pollget right of entry to.
2008-11-28 22:18:14 UTC
He has not produced a birth certificate, only a certificate of live birth. There are no hospital recorders in Hawaii showing him to be born there. His grandmother said that he was born in Kenya.

Ans before anyone starts; McCain was not a natural born citizen either. Neither mcCain or Obama qualifies to be President under the Constitution.
Dept. of Redundancy Department
2008-11-28 21:51:14 UTC
Keep reading past the preface, foreword and introduction and you'll see a REAL, relevant, honest, up-to-date website posted, okay?



It seems that this whole Obama birth certificate hullabaloo is a moot point, or a non-issue / non-starter only pursued by possibly *cough* well-intentioned but more probably loser wacko nutjob lalalala bananas off-the-wall punkyflannelsneezyjeaner loony-toon cuckoo neener-neener ga-ga wingnutters like Berg, Donofrio and Keyes.



Honestly: don't you think that the FBI, CIA, NSA, Homeland Security and even Intelligence Agencies Without Names would have 'outed' Obama before this IF there had a been even a hint of something fishy? Especially given the fact that a Republican president would LOVE to have a reason to negate the election?



And if there had been, you KNOW that someone would have leaked it to those paragons of truth: The National Enquirer, Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh, all of whom would STILL be in the throes of journalistic orgasm? Hey: if even FOX won't touch it, what does that tell you? It's time for the flat-earth, Tinfoil Beanie Brigade to give this one up.



Face it, it's a dumb rumor that 'sounds' good, replete with some erroneous legalese and a few dates thrown in, but is completely, totally, wholly, incontestably, unquestionably, guaranteed to be without a scintilla, drop or speck of merit. Kinda like the "he's a Muslim / anti-Christ / Marxist / socialist / fascist / communist / radical / Manchurian Candidate" etc etc etc., rants. Too bad that so many people believe it, but it seems like a time-waster, a waste of THEIR time and effort, but not mine.

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The following is a McCain supporter / McCain campaign exchange:

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"I heard... he's...he's not a ... he's not like US... he's a A-RAB!!!!!!"

"No, ma'am, he's not, he's a citizen and a fine American."

"He... he IS??????????"

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Sorry, but if that's typical of Palin/McCain supporters....... then it's typical of the desperate folks who cobbled this p.o.s. together, but it's not fit for human intellectual consumption. It's 100% bullcrap, PERIOD.



Source(s):

Lemme put it another way: This rumor is like what some people describe Bush as: "all hat and no cowboy." There's no THERE there!





Source(s):

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Title 8, U.S. Code, Section 1401, quoted at the U.S. Customs-Immigration Service website "www.uscis.gov' in which it delineates between natural-born and natural-ized citizens AND states that the U.S. has no prohibition about U.S. citizens having dual citizenship/dual passports, just that the citizen has to use his/her U.S. passport when re-entering the U.S.; it also states that the Panama Canal Zone is/was NOT considered 'sovereign U.S. soil' AND further states that a parent CANNOT renounce their child's U.S. citizenship.



There is NO requirement that a President be born ON U.S. soil: Mitt Romney was born in Mexico, but is eligible by reason of at least one (both were) parent having been an American citizen.



Here's a hypothetical: suppose McCain had been born in a Japanese commercial airliner flying across the Pacific at 35,000 feet? American parent(s) = American citizen = Prez-eligible.



Time to give this haggard abused dogeared argument up: it's baseless. Period.



However: be prepared for guffaws of laughter when the SC refuses to hear this 'case.' Then pull up a chair, light up a smoke, grab a beer and enjoy the inauguration on January 20,2009.

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xianzomby
2008-11-28 23:12:07 UTC
If you are born on American soil, you can claim "natural born citizenship" no matter what your parent's citizenship.



However, you can still be a natural born citizen even if you are not born on American soil. Outside the U.S., your right to claim "natural born" citizenship status is inherited from your parent's status. From the Naturalization Act of 1790: "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens."



American men and women who are expecting a child do not have to curtail their travels for fear their children will not be American citizens if they are not born in the U.S.. That's exactly what the Naturalization Act was written to address.



But parents must meet certain criteria. They must have spent, I believe at least 5 years inside the U.S. after they achieve 16 years of age. This prevents an American, who has lived her entire adult life abroad, from passing citizenship to her offspring.



Obama's father was not American. His mother was, however. But she had not met the criteria to bear a "natural born" American child outside the U.S., because she had not lived long enough in the U.S. past 16. So if they prove Obama was not born in Hawaii, but rather outside the U.S., he cannot be "natural born" because his mother had not -- at the time of his birth -- met the requirements to pass her citizenship on to him.



McCain is a "natural born," perhaps because the Panama zone was some aberration at the time -- but ALSO because his parents were citizens (see Naturalization Act.) But in general, U.S. military installations overseas are not "sovereign" American territory. That kind of status is negotiated between the State Department and the equivalent agency of a foreign nation, not the DOD. The State Department says U.S. military installations outside the U.S. are not sovereign U.S. territory, and neither are consulates: "Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth." http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86755.pdf What that means is that a pregnant member of the custodial crew at a "U.S." military installation in Korea cannot pop out a kid while cleaning the general's toilet and claim it is an American because it was born "on American soil." It also means American's can't have a kid on the installation and claim their kid is an American for that same reason. They can claim their kid is an American because THEY are American, however.
killowen05
2008-11-28 22:10:38 UTC
No he has not. I think his trip to see his Grandmother before she died was a ruse to tell them to destroy any evidence in Hawaii. He never went back to her funeral after the election. Strange, no reason why he could not. Michelle and the children did not go the first time either.

There are lots of lawsuits getting prepared by lawyers who want the constitution adhered to and we will have to see what happens. But Barack Hussein Obama has somehow escaped scrutiny by everyone and I am amazed at that. See www.USJF.net and you will find out about some lawsuits which are forthcoming.
2008-11-28 21:35:39 UTC
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html



there are the pictures (scroll down)



"The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department."



What more evidence do you want? Let me see McCain's long form birth certificate.
Really?
2008-11-28 21:39:16 UTC
He released it to the people who have a right to see it.



Mozambique?!?! wtf? That's not even anywhere near Kenya. What was his mother doing in Mozambique?



Edit: I have to check, but I don't believe that my bc has my footprint on it and I was definitely born in the US. It does, however, have a dr.'s signature.
not right nowwww
2008-11-28 21:36:54 UTC
I don't understand what the "long form" of a birth certificate is. Can you explain what that is, please ?
The Doc
2008-11-28 21:36:22 UTC
Look, let it go. He's a citizen, I've seen his birth certificate, and you can too at fightthesmears.com if you care.

Obama is going to be the next president, no matter how much you huff and puff about birth certificates.
karatechic1224
2008-11-28 21:48:51 UTC
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kittycattie
2008-11-28 21:38:15 UTC
Yep I got it right here, want me to fax you a copy??

I can do that.

I am the offical Obama birth certificate faxer...he actually appointed me that.

HOLLA
2008-11-28 22:19:18 UTC
has bush released his iq test results?
Deb M
2008-11-28 21:34:28 UTC
Hawaii does NOT release the originals...this has been thrown out of court...



http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
#1 UT
2008-11-28 21:35:09 UTC
Go find Mccain's also.



You would be surprised to know that he was not born on actual U.S. soil.



Mccain is only technically an American citizen.
2008-11-28 21:34:32 UTC
doubt it
Mary Alice_1979
2008-11-28 21:39:05 UTC
he shouldn't. i don't think he needs to pay attention to conspiracy nuts.
2008-11-28 21:33:10 UTC
He hasn't.


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